Body By Vi Scam

by Mary Lucas on June 8, 2012

I am personally writing to you, maryleelucas blog follower’s, to give you my personal reason’s for leaving ViSalus Body By Vi.  I have, up to this point, been very quiet about my decision.  I have received numerous emails from you asking me the tough question’s.  I will try to explain to the best of my ability so that we can all move on and be done with the entire situation.  Please understand my disclaimer : the opinion’s expressed in this blog are the opinion’s of maryleelucas.com.  They do not reflect the opinion of any person or person’s directly or indirectly associated with or to maryleelucas.com. (I don’t need to be sued :)) Please read on to find out about my own personal experience’s in ViSalus.

I like many other’s was a religious follower of the “hype”.  Everyone was either taking ViSalus, at minimum had heard about it.  It seemed like the “dream come true” for me for a year.  I personally grew tired of the Rally (cult) calls and didn’t fully understand why my upline was being so insistent that my team be on these.  Seemed odd for me that my entire team had never received any guidance or help from above, yet the burden was apparently placed upon our shoulder’s to make them climb the rank’s!  It didn’t take long before I realized that the rich were getting richer and everyone from presidential down were sitting still.  I was soon stuck with my very own $572/mth BMW payment!  I personally spoke with my upline seeking advice and was asked that I not return my car to a certain dealership as she didn’t want that to affect “her” business!  Yes, that was the type of “help” alway’s given.  This was one of the biggest clue’s that I was not part of the company I was told I was in.  Many promise’s were made to me personally, vision’s of the greener grass, smoke and mirror’s as I call them (to be more accurate) as long as I “followed the system”.

A couple month’s into 2012 I was told that my attendance was expected at a meeting with one of my 2 star ambassador’s.  I stayed the course and followed the direction placed upon me and met with him for dinner.  A very small group of “follower’s” attended to hear the gospel from the upline.  There was something odd about part of the conversation that night that has never left me.  Perhaps that was where I had been enlightened, my extensive research started very shortly after that meeting.  I asked a question about the main component of ViSalus, the shakes, being from Canada it seemed odd to me that we were still (after months of telling us 30-60 days) only able to receive the US product’s (at a much higher cost for Canadians).  The answer was shocking to me coming from someone that was a self proclaimed “good buddy” of the CEO in ViSalus.  With laughter (and I quote) I was told to “keep those Canadian product’s, they will make a good science project one day, not good for anything else”.  Excuse me?!  I was frustrated, confused, doubting the very belief I had put so much of my time, energy, family into.

With due diligence I HAD to get to the bottom of such a comment!  THIS is where the entire picture became very clear for me personally.  The following statement’s are my very own personal opinion, belief’s and personal experiences.

I started my research by diligently looking over EVERY ingredient in the “nutritional” shake.  This was the “core” of the 2 star’s comment, so this seemed like the perfect place to start.  It didn’t take me long to discover a horrifying fact, SOY PROTEIN ISOLATE was tested, researched, and proven medically to be the cause of long term health issues!

Protein is an important natural compound needed by the body, and both children and adults need this in order to build good muscles and repair bad tissues. Protein is such a popular natural compound in fact, that athletes and health buffs now include protein powders as part of their daily diet. Protein may be sourced from whey, egg and soy. Of these three, the most interesting source is soy, as it provides two forms of soy protein for consumption: soy protein concentrate and soy protein isolate. Of these two, people must be wary of the risks in ingesting soy protein  isolate.

Soy Protein Isolate Dangers

The American Dietetic Association warns the public that soy protein isolate contains certain anti-nutrients that may cause the body to experience delay in digesting food and in effect, a delay in absorbing nutrients.

Further, the following effects may result from ingesting soy protein isolate:

  • Sustaining hormonal imbalances. Soy contains phytoestrogens, which replicate the effects of estrogen in the human body. This may in turn cause hormonal imbalance on people taking soy protein isolate.
  • Suffering from the enlargement of the thyroid gland.
  • Experiencing rapid weight gain or weight loss due to a flawed thyroid  gland.

Truth in Labeling.org offers information on monosodium glutamate (MSG), a hidden  ingredient used in the processing of soy protein isolate. It includes a link to  “Industry Data and Monosodium Glutamate Toxicity” by Adrienne Samuels, Ph.D. The  article cites soy producers’ use of processed free glutamic acid, a component of  MSG, hidden in the list of ingredients of food products, including soy protein  isolate, as a serious health concern contributing to problems such as cardiac  irregularities.
Read more:  Soy Protein Isolate Side Effects | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/about_5207565_soy-protein-isolate-side-effects.html#ixzz1xDUeDvgV

Additional Risks

  • Fallon and Enig also state that genistein, an isoflavone in soybeans, may  have a negative effect on the development or worsening of breast cancer.  Goitrogens contained in soy affect thyroid function, while the phytic acid  content can block the absorption of minerals such as calcium, magnesium, and  zinc—a mineral essential to the functioning of the nervous system. Their  article also addresses the questionable relationship between osteoporosis  prevention and soy, due to the product’s interference with calcium absorption  and its lack of vitamin D.

Read more:  Soy Protein Isolate Side Effects | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/about_5207565_soy-protein-isolate-side-effects.html#ixzz1xDUuJPYn

I was horrified!  Imagine, finding out the the business you had put so much of yourself into was not what you had been “trained” it was.  Could this explain the odd comment said to me?!  This was a moment of truth for me personally.  I had a life altering decision to make, could I continue on with a better then average income, in exchange for the information I had now been given?

I decided that for me personally, my integrity was NOT for sale!  I could in no way trade promoting a product that can cause these health issues for a pay check.  I in turn left ViSalus and joined Evolv Health.  I have done more than my fair share of research now and have made the conscious decision to promote a product that is 100% all natural!  I will not put the health of my family, friend’s and client’s at risk.  I understand that money talks for most people, but for me, my moral compass is far to strong.

Evolv 100% All Natural Meal Replacement Shake

I have endured compliance letter’s threatening legal action if I say ANYTHING regarding the dangers of soy isolate in reference to ViSalus.  I have had negative, personal attacks from “ambassadors” on my personal page, I have had numerous comment’s made about me on friend’s personal pages.  This was all just clarification to me that I had certainly made the right decision in leaving this company.

I have since experienced personal research indicating that in CANADA, the product’s being shipped are not health Canada approved..certainly I will be finding out if these allegations are true or not.  The alway’s heard about M2B, could this be nothing more then a marketing tactic for the last installment for payment to Blythe industries rather then any form of recognition regarding health?  It is my personal opinion that yes, it is a hidden agenda..but you can research that on your own as well.

It is my personal opinion and experience that this company bares no responsibility for it’s less then mediocre product just to turn a buck!  I would personally do my own research before considering becoming involved in ANY company that has soy isolate as an ingredient.  I am ashamed to say that I played a part in promoting a product that has more then potential of making people very sick.

I have paid my dues since leaving the company I was involved in.  I have to live with the fact that I was a willing participant in feeding this product to my children, my ill mother, nursing mom’s, my friend’s, my client’s.  I know I made the right decision and hope that my follower’s will understand who I am and why I couldn’t promote this anymore.  I know that with my decision, I can finally sleep better knowing that my integrity and character are very much intact!

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{ 28 comments }

1 carolyn April 25, 2013 at 2:08 pm

I really enjoyed your take on Vi Salus. I am an ex distributor myself and was taken in by the same scam with someone who took her whole down line from a previous company and sold it to ViSalus! My body has really suffered and so has my trust in any mlm recruiter / manipulator for self-serving benefit.

2 Ken April 20, 2013 at 6:32 pm

Good work ,im getting out of visalus as soon as i finish typing this.

3 Donna April 15, 2013 at 8:45 pm

I ended up with a bag from batch # 474. for those of you unfamiliar,this was a “bad batch ” which they managed to keep quiet and managed their distributors to do the same. Just return it for a new bag, that was the answer. Well, as I am sitting here, with a sore throat from vomiting, after ingesting this “batch ‘ unknowingly this past weekend. So, if it was a pharmecutical co…we would be talking lawsuit. but this is a MLM company….who are every bit as greedy as “big Pharma” and care about as much

4 Valerie April 12, 2013 at 7:32 am

I am happy that you were able to realize this and get out before you got really sick. I know of several people whom have been hospitalized over this product. I had people hounding me to join but I am not one to just join a fad, I need info and when I checked into it I was very skeptical and thought that in 5 years our health system is going to be full of previous Body by Vi customers wondering why their bodies are not functioning properly.
I personally take digestive enzymes and probiotics and feel amazing, lost over 40 pounds and haven’t been sick in ages. I used to be sick all the time and had allergies and eczema, too. The probiotics balance my stomache bacteria by adding good bacteria and the digestive enzymes helps my body digest food easier which in turn has helped me lose weight. As we get older our enzymes tend to slow down so taking digestive enzymes is just boosting your body to do what it is supposed to do more efficiently. I do not have an exercise regime but I am always on the go. I feel the best I have in many years. A surgeon (GI Specialist) is who turned me to probiotics and digestive enzymes. I am not saying they are for everybody but they worked for me and my friends with our doctors blessing!

5 brla April 9, 2013 at 2:03 pm

Great information – I was considering trying this product because I have heard so much about it recently from a friend who seems to be experiencing good results, but now, I think I’ll pass.

6 Mary Lucas
Twitter: maryleelucas
April 9, 2013 at 2:09 pm

I’m glad the article helped you brla. I will take a look at the article regarding the apostrophes you mentioned. Cheers.

7 Sue November 25, 2012 at 6:15 pm

Thank you for all your comments I was considering using this product but thaught I’d look into it first pleased I did, I won’t be trying it now.

8 Gary Jones November 1, 2012 at 11:03 pm

Please add me to your list. I am impressed with your post.

9 Shippy October 18, 2012 at 9:43 pm

Hi Mary Lee,

Good on you for standing up for what you believe to be the truth and warning others of these hyped products, how they get through government certification to begin with is another mystery. I’m sorry but if the only way you can sell a product is through a team of either poor unemployed souls or get rich quick dreamers (aka MLM) then the product has ZERO value to anyone, unless of course you dream’pt up the scheme in the 1st place ( I refer to them as bottom feeders), then you’re probably doing very well off of the army of hopeful’s underneath you.

Sorry I just realized you are promoting a different product through possibly MLM, if so I mean no offence but I agree 100% on the health risks of digesting soy protein isolate.

Cheers

10 Mike October 15, 2012 at 11:11 pm

I was thinking of starting on this, thank you for the tip!

11 Fran October 8, 2012 at 4:17 pm

Lisa,

So glad I saw your blog. I have been on Body by Vi for a few months. Once or twice a day since July..its now Oct. I am a young cardiac patient (age 53) and am trying to lose 25 lbs. Your findings greatly concern me now. If true about the phyto estrogens..then this might be why my hot flashes subsided from 20-30 a day to hardly any. However not knowing the Phyto estrogens were in the shakes..I was taking double for a while. Being in menopause the Phyto estrogens actually help me but aren’t necessarily good for me either. I haven’t had any elevated levels that I am aware of but am now really concerned about drinking these shakes. Thanks for your honesty..I will be looking into this more closely and will most likely replace the product with something healthier. Thanks much!

12 Rizala September 23, 2012 at 8:01 am

I was looking into Body by Vi for my next project. Thanks for the blog. I promised myself I will never support or promote something that I don’t 100% support.

Best wishes!

13 Gary September 6, 2012 at 5:06 pm

Mary,

Your comments are refreshing and helpful. Thank you.

Gary

14 Kelly M August 24, 2012 at 3:09 pm

Mary Lucas,
I commend you for doing this research. I have so many friends who have been suckered into this product. They don’t seem to realize that this whole thing is a marketing pyramid to begin with.
I had one friend tell me that the protein powder I use is full of fillers. NOT…my protein product is a Whey based, not soy based. And I asked this person, well…do you know really what is all in your product? How it will have long term effects on someone’s health. People need to realize there is no quick easy fixes to weight loss. It takes a lifestyle change. I guess there will be alot of people having repo’s of BMW’s when this fad diet dies out in awhile….

15 Alyssa August 22, 2012 at 2:42 pm

Great blog! I was lured in by the quirky Hulk Hogan Youtube videos. I really should have known better. Especially when they took on Kim Kardashian’s ex as a promoter and a Real House Wife as well. All people that, excuse my language, have come to be what are known as “fame whores”. The Hulk Hogan one really did me in because despite the antics of fake reality show of his last 6 or so years, he’s always been a nostalgic figure for me because my dad used to watch him so often.

Also seeing the people lose 70lbs sometimes in that 90 days was incredible. Then I read more about the ingrediants and got nervous and started to realize a lot of these people were probably losing weight more due to the fact that they were cutting drasticly back on their calories due to having just two shakes, a snack (which most claimed they ate raw veggies) and then simply had a salad with meat for dinner. Obviously they lost weight. I’m not sure it really had anything to do with the shakes. After reading about the effects of Soy I kind of freaked out and stopped using them.

16 Rose August 7, 2012 at 12:06 pm

I was taking body by vi and done the 90- day challenege and I did lose 40 lbs but I also walked 5 miles a day too.I recently went to the doctor because I was experiencing a strange sensation in my chest.He took my blood pressure and the bottom number was 200 dangerously high.He said what are you taking.I said the only change was I was on bod by vi.He had a look at the ingredients and said get off of this immedialtely and now I have to take meds to lower it and also the pharamacist also said get off this junk very dangerous.I contacted the lady who sold it to me and told her what happened and I am demanding a refund

17 elly July 26, 2012 at 3:04 am

Health Canada has strict regulations on food products here – so this isn’t something that would slip past them. They have been regulating soy products for years because it’s a known fact that they replicate estrogen. That being said, most of these weight loss gimmicks are just that – sure, you’ll lose weight initially but long term, they don’t teach you how to eat healthy or properly for optimum health. JMHO

18 karrie wright July 25, 2012 at 11:56 am

I stopped using Body by Vi b/c I’m afraid the soy has messed me up and caused weight gain. Not sure if it’s hormone or maybe even thyroid related. Can you tell me if Evolv is similar in taste to body by vi? I loved the taste of the shakes and that’s what made it so easy for me to drink them twice a day!

19 Nara July 23, 2012 at 1:20 pm

I’m glad I found your article Mary, I have been under pressure from various people I know to get sucked into that Visalus scam. The first person to ask me put it as a marketing opportunity and everything SCREAMED pyramid scam, so I told them that my instinct was yelling at me it’s a scam, and me being myself I told them so, and that I would do my homework and research this. I must admit that Visalus know how the web work as most of the search result involving scam or fraud, are people testimony saying how it’s not so, which made me only more skeptical. I eventually found a site by a fitness trainer comparing the nutritional value of their product with other similar product and debunking it as way below average, and then I found your site and was totally petrified by the extend to which it’s a bad product on top of a questionable marketing practice. So far, the fact that I’m taking medication that among other thing, work at the level of fat distribution and deposit, I brushed them off telling them how I don’t want to mess with that. From now on I’m going to relay all the information I have gathered when I will be confronted with an offer for anything Visalus related. Thank you so much for all that valuable and live saving information, and I only want to hug you for all the shit they put you through.

20 Tanya Johnson July 17, 2012 at 12:16 pm

Thanks for the info! You so did the right thing.
We need to be looking more into what our food is made up of, where it comes from and how it is made. Clean is the best option!!

21 John Crow July 6, 2012 at 2:07 am

I read on my facebook page someone hyping this product up. Telling everyone how he or she can loose weight and make money doing it. I’ve been in an MLM before and dealt with the hype and upline that you speak of. The upline that I was involved with did nothing but insist on Sell, Sell and Sell, for those that didn’t, they called them “THUMB SUCKERS” which of course trashed our earnings because it upset everyone. It’s truly amazing from AMWAY all the way down the line how cult like all of these down line building programs have become. I understand and agree with what you’re saying and your stand to quit the company, I applaud you for doing so.

In my opinion you’re doing the right thing by bringing all this out in the open. It gives everyone the knowledge about the program and products where they can then make an informed decision.

22 Lisa July 2, 2012 at 9:55 pm

I absolutely loved your blog! Just signed up with them and I’m so glad I read this. I will not be selling this product. Although I love the taste of the product, I can’t risk mine or anyone else’s health. Does the new company have similar shakes?
Thank you,
Lisa

23 Mary Lucas July 6, 2012 at 1:08 am

Thank you Lisa for your comment. Yes, Evolv has shakes that serve a similar purpose. The shakes themselves are different in that they are all natural and pose no health risk what-so-ever. Feel free to view the products at http://marylucas.myevolv.com
Thanks for reading maryleelucas.com

Mary :)

24 lisa June 30, 2012 at 1:06 pm

Also, I’m glad I know this because I would feel horrible if I caused anyone to have poor health as I know people that would have signed up under this. Shakes work for me. Right now, I’m using a store bought shake to keep my tummy full. I notice you promote another product on your page so I’ll check that out.

25 lisa June 30, 2012 at 1:00 pm

Wow. I’m thinking of signing up in an effort to better my health but not as a weight loss product. I lose weight when stressed but am into good health. Shakes seemed like a healthy alternative to to skipping meals or feeling ill when eating. I’m sorry to hear of this but applaud your bravery in speaking out. I understand how companies bully their employees who can’t compromise their ethics. I think I’ll do my own research on the protein you mentioned via webscape because sometimes, the govt, will say something is bad when they haven’t given their stamp of approval. But thanks again for the information.

26 Mary Lucas July 6, 2012 at 1:17 am

I appreciate your support Lisa. I personally could not promote a product that has the potential to cause harm instead of good. My integrity is far to prominate for that. I can obviously respect your decision to research on your own as that was what brought me to my decision to no longer promote the products for that company. I have and will stand by decision to promote an all natural product that poses no health risks period.
Feel free to contact me anytime for further discussion! Evolv is an amazing leader in the health industry and does what it says..optimizes nutritional intake for a healthy life.

Thank you Lisa

Mary :)

27 brad September 12, 2012 at 10:48 pm

while i think its great that you feel so strongly about not “promoting a product that has the potential to cause harm instead of good” you should know that many health supplements in Canada go through no sort of safety check, Health Canada or FDA approval because of the categories they fall into…..and you may be surprised how many health products use Soy Protein Isolate….this is because it is arguably one of the best proteins for loosing weight and bodybuilders based soley on results not potential health risks http://www.timinvermont.com/fitness/soyvswhy.htm not the most credible, but its sourced and has a lot of good information in one place…..again i dont necessarily disagree but playing devils advocate and i dont want your readers to think its just this product or that this product is really that bad relative to many things on the market

28 Nancy Cable June 9, 2012 at 12:41 pm

We always wonder if, as Mother’s, we have made all the right decisions in teaching our children to be good, honest and morally responsible adults. From the moment of conception, the love we feel for the child inside of us, that will be half of us, is such that it changes our whole way of life; panic, anxiety and horror at the mere thought that it’s a dirty world in which we live. We need to equip our children as they grow with the tools to become the very best that they can be. To give back to our planet and it’s inhabitants ten times more than we take away. I feel that I have done this; there have been a few bumps along the way, nothing worth accomplishing is ever without the bangs and bruises that make our feats rise up and make us proud. My daughters have made me so proud! They have both gone years and years beyond my own borders! Mary, your integrity, your care for your fellow man, as well as your love and protectiveness of your own family, have shown me that I excelled in giving you such a wonderful sense of who you are, and where you are going in your life. I wish to honor your integrity; the intense study of the product that could affect so many in the length and overall enjoyment of their lives. I thank you for not taking the easy road; instead, confronting head on the shame that this company should be feeling for creating and marketing a product that is not what we believe it to be. Shame on you, Visalus. Mary, you make me proud!
By the way, these thoughts and words are my own. As a believer and former consumer of the Body by Vi product, I no longer will be duped by a company that has no morals or integrity. They have sold this product to me, knowing it to have an unhealthy and dangerous ingredient. Signed, Nancy Cable

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